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Tarzan2
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Posts: 3
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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 Posted: August 25 2006
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| mike wrote: |
Don't get me wrong, I am intently interested in
hearing about any subscription issues. I can fix
anything anybody has wrong with their subscriptions. If
not, I can see to it getting done at the very least.
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Sorry, but after spending considerable
time reading all the posts back and forth on this issue, I
feel I have to add my 2 cents (perhaps a 3rd party can see
things a bit more clearly since there are no emotions involved
when I read these posts).
Let me begin by stating that
I have been receiving unsolicited e-mail from the various
derivatives of iEntry for several years, and with increasing
frequency and they are finding my other e-mail adresses as
well. And guess what? I just subscribed to this forum
yesterday! Obviously, subscribing to the forum is NOT how I
became subscribed to the e-mails. I'm not complaining, because
I have learned a lot and I WANT to continue receiving the
e-mails (otherwise I would have them filtered out and that is
that). However, the point of this post is unsolicited e-mail,
and the poster is correct; it happens!
Mike, your
initial response was good, and it should have ended there.
Obviously, there was an emotional response and everything you
read after that was taken personally.
| mike wrote: |
That established, anybody that
thinks the opening thread here constituted what I should
read as a level headed bid for the discussion of an
issue... let's just say we went to different schools
about how that should be done. Cause that's a pretty far
cry from what I read.
What I won't do is
grin and nod and bite my tongue here when I'm being
called everything from an idiot to a spammer to a liar
by Phil.
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From my understanding of what I read
was that Phil said he is receiving SPAM from here, but did not
say it was from you personally. Are you the owner of the site?
I suppose if you are, then you would be correct in taking the
matter personally. He also said you might be repeating lies.
That is different than calling you a liar.
| mike wrote: |
You wanna go schoolyard, I can go
there too.
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Please! Sorry. That comment just isn't
professional at all.
| mike wrote: |
Funky things happen. However, if and
when an error occurs I am more than happy to look into
and resolve it. |
That's more like it! Please stop the
bickering and just take care of the problem. The less said,
the better you look. You offer to resolve a problem and follow
through, and everyone respects you. End of story.
Can
we end this now? Please? I don't want to see such a good site
go "schoolyard". | |
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kgun
Joined:
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Posts: 1525
Location: Norway
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| Posted: August 25 2006
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| SPC2 wrote: |
| You're unlikely to hear anything like
that from the WPW diehards here, but you've seen a link
to where people are complaining that WPW spams
them. |
That post was just after my post. I
have some remarks.
1. There are at least two styles of
writing. The direct (often by people with mathematical
background - icecold logic) and the other very polite one. I
know, I personally belong to the first.
2. In my
opinion, WPW is one of the more professional forums on the
internet. I have the greatest respect for some people here.
Discuss until there is nothing more to dicuss.
3. I
can remind you of a famous, intence and hard discussion
between Nobel Price winner, Ragnar Frish and a Norwegian well
respcted chancellor of the exchequor, Petter Jacob Bjerve. The
discussion boiled down to a discussion about the maximum of a
function. Frish said that there could not be a higher maximum
of a function than the global free maximum whereas Bjerve
meant that a restricted maximum could be higher. He got the
last word.
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SPC2
Joined:
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Posts: 372
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| Posted: August 25 2006
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| Mike wrote: |
| Now, it is worthwhile to note that Phil
still isn't happy with it, and as such, I'd strongly
advise him to change it however he would like for his
forum. |
I
don't require people to click a link in a confirmation email
to register in my forum, as it wouldn't prevent the forum
spammers, and I don't feel the need to sneak anything past
anyone.
Your confirmation email just isn't good
enough. It's nothing but an attempt to sneak the newsletter
past people. You know darned well that people generally read
the first line, realise that they have to click the link to
complete the forum subscription, and they click it. Writing
about the newsletter lower down is a sneaky way to get
subscriptions without people even realising it. If you really
want to be open about the newsletter, and get genuine optins,
put it in the site's registration pages - in plain site,
instead of sneaking it past people in a subsequent email for
fear that they won't want it.
| Mike wrote: |
| However, if and when an error occurs I
am more than happy to look into and resolve
it. |
Hah!
You've shown no indication that you want to resolve the issue
of spamming me. Chris did. He PMed me straight away, but not
you Mike.
And you still haven't said anything about
the real spam issue - starting to receive the newsletter again
a short time AFTER opting out. It happens every time - I've
opted out to all newsletters at least twice and probably three
times. They stop for a while, and then then they start again.
You haven't got a leg to stand on, Mike, and you seem to be
quite happy with it. WPW are spammers!
| Mike wrote: |
| What I won't do is grin and nod and bite
my tongue here when I'm being called everything from an
idiot to a spammer to a liar by
Phil. |
Read
my initial post again, Mike. Nowhere in it do I call you an
idiot, spammer or liar. I called WPW spammers and that's all.
I actually didn't think that you personally had anything to do
with the email spam. It was you who went off on the rampage,
including the sheer stupidiy of altering the link, so don't
try to turn it on me. Read my initial post again, Mike. What
happened after it was because you went off on one. Get it
straight, and be big enough to admit your mistakes.
As
for calling you a liar. Read my posts again. You'll see that I
gave you credit for being deceived and merely repeating the
lies to me 2 years ago. And I promise you, they were
definitely lies. But then you went out and lied all by
yourself in this thread, with your "I have been supremely
accommodating and patient with you over the years" statement.
Something you know simply isn't true, as does any ordinary
user here. It's you who made it personal, Mike. You caused
this thread to go off. | |
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